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Atheist Vitriol

Posted by Jeff on January 24, 2010

You know, there are few things more annoying than being accused – by someone I barely know – of being closed-minded and ‘militant’ just because they find out I’m an atheist. I’ve been called a fundamentalist. I’ve been asked why I want to convert people to atheism. Now, if I had demonstrated any of the behaviors indicative of these traits I’d understand, but these accusations are always made – 100% of the time – based solely on the information that I identify as atheist.

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Basing belief on faith.

Posted by Jeff on January 16, 2009

Last night I attended a meeting of the Stanford Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics group. It was entertaining, especially since there were four people there who were representing various christian groups on campus to offer an ‘outside perspective’. The topic of discussion was about the correlation between religion and social actions such as charity. Well, as these types of discussions so often do without a steadfast moderator, it veryquickly devolved into a debate on the existence of God, the plausibility of christianity, etc. Compared to the debates I’ve had with christians in the past, however, these guys were great! Their arguments were relatively reasonable and they were perfectly willing to admit when their rhetoric didn’t hold water.

Of course they seemed genuinely surprised when most of the atheists in the room ‘admitted’ to their being a possibility of god existing, considering that they, like most religious people, had a sort of caricature notion of what being an atheist means. The main thing about this exchange that really bugged me, however, was the persuasive technique that I’ve heard sooo many times and I can never seem to make the silly christians realize how flawed it is. Basically thus:

Have you ever tried just asking God if he’s real? Just talk to God and ask him to show himself to you and he will!

So. The great proof of the existence of the Almighty is to already accept the fact that he’s there and then wait for confirmation on that? Sorry people, but that’s not how it works. Aside from the fact that this notion assumes that everyone who doesn’t believe in God is trying desperately to, it also requires a sort of pre-belief belief! I  guarantee that none of these guys is going to make the same request of Odin, fully open to him proving himself. Because, frankly, if they did he would. That’s how this works. You set yourself up psychologically to accept proof of the divine and then you accept anything at all as proof of the divine. It’s like confirmation bias but even more self-manufactured.

Overall, I did enjoy the conversations last night and would enjoy doing it again sometime. But sometimes I reallywish the god crowd would come up with some original shit. I’ve heard all the old apologetic stuff multiple times and it really  gets boring refuting the same arguments in every single discussion.

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Lock and Load! It’s the War on Christmas!!!

Posted by Jeff on December 17, 2008

So apparently another atheist sign was stolen from a holiday display, this time in IL. I think all this shit is pretty funny, actually. Christians everywhere are bitching a la Fox News and Bill O’Reilly and apparently some of them find larceny to be the best approach to solving the matter. Face the facts people, if you allow such a thing as a nativity scene to be displayed on government property then you open yourself up to have OTHER views displayed as well. Maybe even ones you disagree with! Suck it the hell up! Atheists are not waging a War on Christmas®. They just want to call attention to the fact that the government is and should be kept secular. The exact same response would be found if it was a Ramadan or a Hanukkah display in the Capitol Building!

One thing that does bug me about this article, though, is this quote from Annie Laurie Gaylor:

“Atheists never engage in vandalism. We don’t go around stealing the Baby Jesus. They don’t follow their own commandments.”

Really Gaylor? Really??? What an outrageous blanket statement. Who the hell is she to say what all atheists never do? I know for a fact thatbaby Jesuses (Jesusees? Jesi? Jesees?) do go missing from nativity scenes. It’s awfully presumptuous to assume that NONE of them were taken by even one atheist.

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Just a comic

Posted by Jeff on December 16, 2008

That lives up to the title of this blog and then some. Don’t be afraid to look at it. Really. It won’t hurt. Unless of course you are one of those religious types, in which case it may piss you off a bit. Hey, don’t take it out on ME! The word Iconoclast is written in big letters across the top of this page! Enjoy, below the fold… Read the rest of this entry »

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Our soon-to-be ex-president

Posted by Jeff on December 14, 2008

You know, I’ve seen some pretty interesting reactions to our president in the news. I saw him booed at a baseball game, I’ve seen him dissed by a whole summit of world leaders, and I’ve seen him make all sorts of asinine and idiotic statements all on his own. This clip,  however, is the best out of them all! I never thought I’d see someone lob a shoe at his head! Kudos, good sir. It’s a shame that you only had two feet…

El Presidente can move pretty damned fast it seems.

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Arrogance (from March 2008)

Posted by Jeff on July 22, 2008

Ever had someone call you arrogant when you didn’t agree with them? I have. In most cases(at least in my experience) it involves discussions of religion. When this happens, I can’t even get angry. I’d LIKE to get angry. I mean, that’s the expected response when someone makes an ad hominem attack against you, right?

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